i couldn't make asmix be swallowed by wharf, so i edited it a bit so it can be easily swallowed by wharf now. add this line to your wharf section/file: *Wharf asmix - Swallow "asMix" asmix -shape & i've also changed parameter '-position' to '-geometry' which i think it used more commonly. i hope the author of asmix doesn't mind the changes. (i'm putting it to the /incoming dir, because a mail i sent to afterstep@eosys.com didn't make it there (and i'm subscribed)). fuf@fuf.sh.cvut.cz